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The Results From the Legal Collections Test

11/3/09 posted by Doug Fuller    

Before discussing the results of the test, let’s review what we were testing. In November 2007, 74 loans that would have been included in the December Debt Sale were selected for a test of applying a legal collections strategy. These loans had an outstanding principal balance of approximately $705,000. They were placed at Hunt & Henriques, a prominent California debt collection law firm.

Once placed with the firm, these accounts were sent a “demand letter” stating that the balance would be accelerated in 30 days if an acceptable payment arrangement was not negotiated. Three days after the letters were sent, the collections department of the law firm started a calling campaign. At the 30 day mark, a second letter was sent stating that the law firm had been engaged to sue the accountholder if the debt was not brought current or settled. In mid January, a “last chance” letter was sent. Through this time, phone efforts continued.

During this “pre-legal” phase, a total of $39,997.98 was collected from 14 different accounts. Five of the accounts “cured” returning to a current status. Three accounts filed for bankruptcy. The collections in the pre-legal phase were low, but not statistically outside of the expected range.

In mid-February, the law firm began filing suit against the remaining 66 accountholders. This is the point at which the indication of changes started to become apparent. 16 of the cases had to be closed because either the debtor had moved out of state (3 cases) or we were unable to obtain service. Of the 13 cases in which we were unable to obtain service, 11 of them were homeowners.

How could we be so stupid as to file a suit against a person using the wrong address? This is a real annoying one. Having the right address is critical to success of a legal strategy. So how did we confirm we had the right address? In the past, I have been successful at using a combination of information from the Lexis-Nexis Accurint service with the results of mailing first class letters to the target address. 

In previous testing, the Accurint “best address” was found to be correct more than 70% of the time – by applying some additional criteria, the confidence level on the address could be increased to almost 85%. In separate testing, it was shown that the USPS return mail process was approximately 60% effective (meaning that a letter mailed to an inaccurate address would be returned within a month 60% of the time).  Furthermore, we preformed a second round test in which the addresses on which no return letter had been received were sent a second letter – again approximately 60% of these were returned within a month of mailing.

What does all of that mean? It says that using the Accurint best address combined with at least two first class letters that have not been returned (with a month of return time), you have an expected confidence level on the address of 95+% of the time. Clearly that expectation did not apply to this population. At the time that the files were closed, Accurint was still reporting the same address as “best” in 13 of the 16 cases. A subsequent review of the 11 homeowners, show that 10 had foreclosure proceedings started during the summer of 2008.

The second major deviation from the expected results was in the bankruptcy rate. Traditionally, you expect 10 to 15% of accounts to respond to the threat of legal action by filing bankruptcy. Of the original 74 accounts in the test, 21 filed bankruptcy. 

The third and most disturbing deviation was the level of payment induced by the filing of suits. Traditionally, you expect a significant amount of collections to be received once the debtor knows that they have been sued – the rule of thumb is that post-filing/pre-judgment collections will be 50% more than the amount received during the pre-legal phase. In this test, the gross collections were less than $3,000 ($2,879) as compared to more than $17,000 in filing and service fees.

The final issue encountered was environmental.  In California, there are two types of default judgments – a Clerk’s Judgment vs. a Court Judgment. A Clerk’s Judgment is used in “cut and dried” cases. At the recommendation of the law firm, we initially filed Clerk’s Judgments on these cases. We knew there was a chance that the courts might not accept this approach due to the novel nature of the Prosper loans, but H&H felt that it was worth trying for the Clerk’s Judgment with its lesser level of required documentation. As it turned out, the vast majority of courts rejected the requested Clerk’s Judgment.

The environmental aspect is twofold. The courts have exercised a marked increase in consumer protectionism as foreclosures and mortgage related defaults have skyrocketed. The second aspect involves the timing of these suits versus Prosper entering its quiet period. In October, 2008, I met with H&H to develop an account affidavit and documentation package necessary to support a Request for Default Court Judgment. Before the new motions were filed, we entered the quiet period. At the recommendation of the law firm, we decided to wait for completion of the registration process to pursue the cases. The length of our quiet period resulted in some cases being dismissed without prejudice rather than risk losing a motion in front of a leery judge.

So what does all this mean? Is Prosper just incapable of having a legal strategy? No, I still believe that a legal strategy is critical to Prosper’s collections. Let me address this in two parts, first what happens with the rest of the test and second the future of legal collections at Prosper.

Regarding the accounts in this test – in cases on which service was not obtained or were dismissed due to the quiet period – if they are still suit worthy, new cases will be filed. In some cases, the debtor has moved out of state or their credit score has dropped so low that re-filing is not worthwhile (there are several accounts that had credit scores above 700 that now have a score in the low 400’s).

The request for Court Judgment are being filed in open, uncontested cases. The contested cases will be brought to trial – we’re finally starting to get court dates scheduled for those trials.

At this point, I have no expectation that this legal test is going to be the financial success that I had predicted. However, there is still value in getting the courts used to dealing with the enforcement of peer-to-peer loans.

For the long term, I have great hopes for developing an effective legal strategy. In the pre-registration phase, we had two significant challenges regarding pursuing legal action. Most critical was that since Prosper did not own the loans, it took an extraordinary act for Prosper to have the standing to bring a lawsuit (the loans had to be assigned back to Prosper – and each step of assignment increases the complexity of a debt collection case). This is resolved with the new loan/Payment Dependent Note structure. Since Prosper owns the loan, there is no question of our standing to bring suit.

The second issue is creating a mechanism to pay upfront court costs. In the case of the current test Prosper paid the upfront court costs. Depending on state, this can be between $150 and $400 dollars per loan. Typically these costs are covered by “pooling” legal accounts – meaning that recoveries from accounts with recoveries pay the costs of the sued accounts on which no recovery is made. This approach does not work with the Prosper concept of lenders receiving the revenue from the specific loans that they selected for investment. We have some ideas and will be working out a viable plan to address this problem.

Another key question is how to determine what loan would be suit eligible given the current environment. For the last 10 to 15 years, the fact of homeownership has been the most important determinant for suit eligibility. That is no longer the case. We are investigating possible mechanisms for recovery scoring. 

Creating an effective legal strategy is a critical component of collection efforts in unsecured lending. Given the environment and the uniqueness of the Prosper structure, developing the optimal strategy is going to take work. The reason for testing is to learn while minimizing the economic impact. Although the results of this test were not what we hoped, we will continue to learn from it – and from additional tests that we undertake in the future. This is a work in process.


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14 Responses


Yankeefan | November 3rd, 2009 at 4:17 pm

Thanks for the update. Analyzing the numbers, it appears (admittedly in retrospect) that the high point of the test effort was reached immediately after the first “lawyer letter”, when we got $40,000 in collections. From that point on, little happened that was good for the lenders/Prosper.

It is a concern that judges would be leary of what a departing Prosper Executive recently claimed “state and federal regulators have since described as one of the most promising financial innovations in the last five years. ”

I am also confused as to how the SEC filing and “quiet period” could have had ANY effect on normal business activities such as these lawsuits.


112233 | November 3rd, 2009 at 4:30 pm

I assume some of these people asked for validation within the first 30 days which is a standard procedure. What was the impact of that? FDCPA says you have to stop collections until you validate the debt.


Angry | November 3rd, 2009 at 5:32 pm

I like the honesty,but I can only wonder what this does to your court record you used to brag about. PROSPER FAIL on this one!


Adi R | November 3rd, 2009 at 6:01 pm

As someone with some number of older 2007 loans that were “written off”, I find this long blog post to be very important.

I don’t feel that I fully understand that the new loans (notes) being issued right now by Prosper are fully “legally tested” and will fare better in the future collection efforts.

In addition, one of the things I hear “around the net” is that people try to use “it was not my loan” or “I never got the money, someone used my SSN and address” strategy. I understand that if Prosper identifies that such fraud really happened (someone really did steal SSN, etc), lenders are protected by Prosper. But what about cases where Prosper determines that actual laon went to the right person, and the claim itself is a lie now?


animalhouse | November 4th, 2009 at 7:04 am

Thanks for the update, although I would have like to recieve this update via an email. Creating this kind of blog for all to see shows borrowers, 1 - if you live outside of CA, Prosper won’t take legal action if you default. 2 - even if you live in CA, Prosper most likely won’t take legal action if you default. 3 - even if Prosper takes legal action, most likely nothing will become of it. 4 - Prosper really doesn’t check any of the information you provide. Maybe the thinking needs to change at Prosper, start validating the borrower’s information prior to proving the loan.


NewHorizon | November 4th, 2009 at 7:34 am

Could you go into more detail about why H&H recommended postponing pursuit of the cases until the registration process finished?


Edna Smith | November 4th, 2009 at 5:03 pm

Thank you for being honest Doug. What is the game plan going forward since the statute of limitations may expire soon on some of the loans.

Have you thought about having an attorney on contingency fees and trying to have the defendant pay the court costs and attorneys fees?


Milton Vasquez | November 5th, 2009 at 4:02 pm

Thanks for the update. Please provide information on the status of the negociations for including the state of Texas in your program. Also, please advise me on how to get a report on the progress being made by the collections agency concerning my loans that have been sent to collections.


Mee Thavong | November 5th, 2009 at 8:23 pm

I am happy to know that Prosper plans use the legal avenue in a cost-efficient way. Let’s never drop the legal strategy….


Eric Olson | November 9th, 2009 at 10:24 pm

I work in the underwriting department of a large bank’s indirect lending division. This post was very open — perhaps too open, a Prosper borrower by definition is by definition more internet savvy than a traditional borrower, in fact quite a few of them probably read this, if the borrowers are unconcerned about the prospects of a suit, the likelihood of repayment may suffer - and worse if borrowers know your legal action is mostly impotent, your recovery rate may be even lower.

More on being helpful hopefully. I would consider utilizing a source like theworknumber.com to make decisions on suit worthiness. A homeowner with no job isn’t worth suing, but a renter with a job might be. The work number verified employment for many major employers on the front of the house side we use it to verify that a consumer is employed — in the back of the house however it can be used to determine a customers income - which and current employer even if it’s different from the employer at time of funding.

It’s one of the first steps towards obtaining wage garnishment and knowing income would allow you oppose as customers chapter 7 filing or negotiate the appropriate repayment plan.


Andre Stegplatten | November 10th, 2009 at 7:16 am

I hear “around the net” is that people try to use “it was not my loan” or “I never got the money, someone used my SSN and address” strategy. I understand that if Prosper identifies that such fraud really happened (someone really did steal SSN, etc),


Nicole | December 10th, 2009 at 5:06 am

Thanks for the information. I appreciate that you are sharing details with us. It is important to lenders to know that you are working to ensure that borrowers will pay. Keep up the good work and keep sharing the information with us.


Yankeefan | January 22nd, 2010 at 1:06 pm

Doug-

It has been almost three month since this. Do you have any further updates?
Thanks.

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